Palate Cleanser: The Quiz Show
Kathryn (00:10)
I like, do not feel like we're recording an episode right now.
Gina (00:13)
Maybe that's a good thing. We'll be really relaxed.
Kathryn (00:16)
Speaking of which, cheers.
Gina (00:18)
Cheers.
Kathryn (00:22)
right, well on that note, I'm just gonna jump right on in. Hello, welcome to I Scream You Scream We're your weekly scoop of the most chilling histories, mysteries, and paranormal perplexities. My name is Kathryn.
Gina (00:24)
Hehehehe
I'm Gina.
Kathryn (00:34)
And this is a palette cleanser episode, so no specific story today. But we are still in March, Femme Fatale month, so we're still focusing on the ladies. More on that later. But before we get into all that, friendly reminder to join us over on Patreon for behind the scenes bonus information, stuff, content, whatever. I don't know. I'm a sip deep, everybody.
Gina (00:56)
information.
Kathryn (01:03)
If you want info, follow us. But yeah, until then, what? Grab a drink and let's dig in. Cheers.
Gina (01:13)
Cheers!
Kathryn (01:15)
But before we talk about anything else, in case anyone's wondering why I am a pleasant, pleasantly emotional mess right now.
is because we have a lovely announcement for everyone. Our manifestation powers in February worked harder than we were expecting them to, and we are in the process of planning a trip to New Orleans. Yay! That's it, that's the announcement. Yeah, we're going with the twats. I don't even wanna say in the process of planning.
Gina (01:44)
Hell yeah! Yay!
Kathryn (01:53)
Like, we are booked. We will be there in May. We are going for SassyCon. It is a witch conference in New Orleans. So if any listeners out there are interested, you all should go too. Why not? Who cares? We're all going to NOLA together. Very excited.
Gina (02:12)
before we hopped in to record, Kathryn and I booked my ticket together. She watched me do it, we were on a call, and then we screamed with excitement for about an hour. ⁓ That's how long it took us to calm down enough to do this.
Kathryn (02:18)
together on screen, yeah.
Yeah, we finally just... Yeah, and
I'm not that calm, so if I'm being weird, that's why. There's actually a reason for it today. I'm also kind of in the head... So we have a blizzard going. We're in a blizzard situation right now. The sun just started poking through as I was saying this sentence. So I'm in a blizzard imagining...
being in New Orleans at a witch conference with you. There's just like a lot of emotions going on right now. Just very, I didn't think you were gonna be able to go. So that's why I'm still, I'm still a little bit in disbelief. So we just decided to announce it to you all so we can listen back when this publishes and believe that it's actually happening.
Gina (03:02)
Me neither.
and maybe it'll feel real. Although, you know what? It's not gonna feel real until we're there. That's how these things go.
Kathryn (03:19)
No, I'm definitely not gonna
believe that it's gonna happen. I'm very grateful, knock on wood, I'm happy that it's happening in the spring and not around this time because this is the time of year, at the time we're recording,
Gina (03:27)
Mm.
Kathryn (03:31)
flights get canceled due to weather and like weather that we have had the last 24 hours, but we're gonna be beyond all May, unless there's when's?
When's hurricane season?
Is it the same as tornado season? Because I feel like that's spring and summer.
Gina (03:47)
don't actually remember when tornado season is. I know, yeah. I'm losing my...
Kathryn (03:51)
Yeah, well, been gone a long time.
It probably depends on what part
of the country you are in. Like here in Wisconsin, it's much shorter than like Oklahoma, which is good luck year round basically.
Gina (04:01)
Yeah.
We were talking about ⁓ natural disasters at work the other day and just sharing like, when I was a kid, there was like this flash flooding or whatever. And I mentioned that I grew up in a place that's like, you know, we get a lot of tornadoes and I grew up with tornado drills.
Kathryn (04:06)
think so.
Mm.
Gina (04:21)
And my coworkers made me feel like I was the bravest person on planet
Kathryn (04:25)
Phil and I were just talking about that because it is coming up on tornado season here and Wisconsin has a much smaller number of tornadoes than where I grew up in Illinois because we grew up cornfield country. We were in the flat part of the
I don't know, just, love tornado season just because I love a summer storm. Just like the vibes of the weather leading up to a tornado. I just, I don't know, I love it. I love a summer storm.
Gina (04:48)
Mm.
I also love a summer storm.
Kathryn (04:57)
I wanted to be a storm chaser when I grew up, but another dream killed by math. That was the whole reason, yeah. When I switched my major from nursing, when I was trying to decide what for sure to do, I was taking all of these classes to decide, and I took meteorology, and the whole time I was just like, what? Like, what are you talking about? What is this? But one of my
Gina (05:02)
Ugh.
What the hell? ⁓
Kathryn (05:18)
Anyway, so we're going to New Orleans.
Gina (05:21)
What are you... Yeah,
we're going to New Orleans. What are you drinking, Kathryn?
Kathryn (05:26)
Hi, in celebration of ⁓ being able to see you again in May, I decided to stick with Old Faithful and I got myself a whiskey and ginger ale. A little ASMR.
Gina (05:39)
Classic of a genre. Love a whiskey ginger. I've got my ye olde Stroopwafel liqueur still.
Kathryn (05:41)
Mm-hmm.
Yum.
Did you have it for our New Year's episode? You've drank that on the podcast before. I don't know what it would have been for.
Gina (05:51)
I definitely have.
had it for, there was a month where we did ice cream and cocktail pairing.
Kathryn (06:00)
Oh, the coffee and bourbon one that I massively... The one that I messed up. So I was not drinking a cocktail for that one. Yes. New Orleans month. Oh my God. Just kidding. We did that on purpose. We did. Just kidding.
Gina (06:00)
And ⁓ shit, what was that? ⁓ yeah. Yeah. So I drank this during ⁓ New Orleans month. So I am also celebrating New Orleans in a roundabout way that I didn't realize.
We totally did.
Kathryn (06:23)
I actually, have, this was the most exciting news before we booked a trip to New Orleans, but still very, very exciting. We have a shout out for a lovely listener that I'm very excited. I don't know if you know about this unless you've checked the Instagram recently. Okay, so surprise. Shout out to Space Princess on Instagram. messaged us when...
Gina (06:39)
Mm-mm.
Kathryn (06:48)
The Mata Hari episode was released early this month and the message said, been very excited for Femme Fatale month and so far it is fantastic. I had ice cream for dinner tonight while listening and it says, because fuck Rudolph, I'm living my best life. So for those who don't remember, Rudolph was Mata Hari's asshole husband. So yeah, shout out.
Gina (07:04)
Okay.
Hell yeah.
Kathryn (07:17)
to Space Princess on Instagram for joining us with ice cream. They're the first ones to join us with ice cream to our knowledge. And also apparently it was their birthday a couple of weeks ago and they got, yeah, they got an ice cream maker as a birthday present. So they're gonna be joining us on our flavor journey moving forward. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Me too. I know. I was like, my God, please let me give you a shout out.
Gina (07:24)
Yeah.
Gosh, welcome, Space Princess, I'm so happy you're here! How exciting! Yay!
Kathryn (07:46)
for this because this is the first one that we've been made aware they are joining us with ice cream. So that was very, very big. So thank you. Shout out to Space Princess.
Gina (07:54)
I love that, my God,
heart is so full today. What a wonderful day, yeah, boy.
Kathryn (07:57)
I know, what a great day. I know.
with all that being said, I think that right now would be a really lovely time to let everyone know what we will be eating in April. And if I remember correctly, you owe me just one more before it is my turn to announce.
Gina (08:17)
Well, it is with great pomp and circumstance and no small amount of intense visceral excitement that I will give you my last flavor announcement for at least a month. All right, so next month, guys, we're going to be talking about aliens. Very exciting. Cannot wait. Same. I think it's going to be so much fun. We have some really interesting topics queued up.
Kathryn (08:37)
Yay! I'm so excited for this one.
Gina (08:44)
and to accompany our alien chats, we're going to be having green. That is the prompt. Something green. You have to incorporate green into your ice cream in some way, form that is open for us to do with what we will. Who knows what we're gonna do? Not me. We'll figure it out. But you too can find out if you join us in April.
Kathryn (08:58)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Yes, so good luck to Space Princess and your new ice cream maker and good luck to us as well because I have absolutely no idea what I will be making myself. my God, did I just commit to making something? I didn't mean to do that. I meant having. no.
Gina (09:18)
I have no idea what I'll be churning by hand.
Kathryn (09:24)
⁓
yes, aliens, green. We're keeping it simple this month. Or difficult, depending on what we choose to do to ourselves. Okay.
Gina (09:31)
Beautiful.
You
Kathryn (09:36)
What's next? think, do you wanna just jump into what we're doing today? This was very much a last minute situation and honestly, might be one of my favorite things that we've chosen to do.
Gina (09:49)
I am going to request that when we're editing this, we add the sounds of people clapping like a live studio audience when I announce this, please. So thank you. Thank you very much.
Kathryn (09:57)
Oh yeah sure.
Do want me to just clap the whole time?
Gina (10:00)
The whole time. The whole episode.
Kathryn (10:01)
Wow, look at her, look at her
go, she's beautiful. my gosh, that laugh, that laugh, wow.
Gina (10:10)
Folks, hello! It is,
it? 7.36 p.m., which means it's time for the I Scream You Scream Quiz Show. We're gonna do a quiz! So here's how it works. Our two lovely contestants, which are me and Kathryn, are going to be asking each other a series of questions, quizzing each other on episodes gone by.
Kathryn (10:21)
Ciao!
Gina (10:35)
So I think the way we structured it is I'll be asking Kathryn quiz questions about episodes that I have done and vice versa. And we will culminate in quizzing each other on the episodes that we ourselves wrote. So for example, Kathryn will quiz me for one question on an episode that I wrote to test whether or not I actually remember any of the shit that I've been researching for the past year and a half, two
Kathryn (10:44)
Yes.
Yes, I just realized in this moment that I am going to be asked questions as well. I've only been thinking about asking you questions and now I'm very nervous.
Gina (11:10)
I did try to make this a mix of easy and less easy. I don't think there are any, there are no trick questions in here, I'll tell you that.
Kathryn (11:17)
Yeah, me too.
I might have one, but I don't remember if I do or not. I remember thinking, that's a trick question, but I don't remember what my decision on it was. Leave it in or leave it out. ⁓ Regardless, I will let you know if it's a trick question or not. Also, I feel like we should say, just because I mentioned the ladies back, all of our questions do have to do with women that we have covered, or women in episodes or whatever.
Gina (11:32)
Ha ha.
Yes.
Kathryn (11:50)
Do we just jump in? Who wants to go first? Do you have a preference? I'll choose if you don't want to. I've been making you do a lot of stuff so far.
Gina (11:57)
Yeah, you choose, you choose.
Kathryn (12:00)
I want you to ask me a question first.
Gina (12:03)
Okay, okay. Are you ready, contestant number one?
Kathryn (12:09)
as ready as I'll ever be, contestant. ⁓ I feel weird you being your contestant one as well. Okay. One thing I know about math is two typically comes after one and I just did not know how to approach that. Okay.
Gina (12:11)
end. I'm contestant one also. Contestant one the second.
Not this time, no. All right, so here is your first question. In episode 15, we spoke at length about Sarah Winchester and her infamous home. What number is said to appear over and over again in the Winchester Mystery House? Is it,
13, B, 2, C, 26, or D, 69?
Kathryn (12:56)
Well Gina, I'm gonna have to go with A13. Yay!
Gina (12:59)
Ding ding ding ding ding! ⁓
and with a riotous start, contestant number one runs away into the lead. Very good, very good. Are we keeping track of if we get these right?
Kathryn (13:08)
Excellent.
was really hoping. Of what? ⁓
is this, ooh, are you making this a competition? I never make things a competition, but if you want to, we can. Let's do it, why not? Why don't you keep track and then you tell me at the end whether it's a competition or if we're just having fun.
Gina (13:20)
⁓
It can be a competition if I win. Okay.
Ooh, okay.
I'll get my notebook right now. Okay.
Kathryn (13:33)
Okay.
I was hoping you were going to start with Sarah. That was a good question. didn't know. Well, and also like I specifically requested you bring up Sarah because she was the one that I wanted to like be quiz done. That was such a great episode.
Gina (13:41)
I had to.
Yeah, that was
great. I actually, have a new fact that I learned about Sarah Winchester while we're on the topic. So you know how there's that infamous door to nowhere on the outside of the house? I think in my episode I said that that and things like it were the result of earthquake damage. A little bit untrue, I found out, because that door to nowhere on the outside of the house I think was actually put in retroactively,
Kathryn (13:58)
Tell me.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Gina (14:17)
for the purposes of like loading things in and out of the house. Make it a bit easier. Yeah.
Kathryn (14:20)
⁓ that's smart.
I like that. Still not a spooky reason. So all of the truths you told us in your episodes still stand, but that's cool. That's good to know. You're welcome. OK, are you ready? So I'm going to start with episode 26 when we were talking about our girl Lilith. What animal is not?
Gina (14:32)
Thank you.
I am.
Kathryn (14:48)
usually associated with Lilith. I think this was the trick question, just the addition of the word not. Okay. So A, bat, B, owl, C, crow, or D, snake.
Gina (14:52)
Okay.
See, I know she was associated with an owl. This one's tricky. I know for a fact she was associated with owl. I would be shocked if she wasn't associated with a snake, so I think it's between bat and crow. I'm gonna go with crow. That's my gut instinct.
Kathryn (15:04)
This one's a little tricky. Yes.
Correct. Correct. And your narrowing down of the choices is exactly spot on brilliance because Bat is a little bit of a stretch. I do think this was the trick question because Bat, the only real reference to Bat with her is the wings are often described as like bat-like, but that is not an official piece of her lore, but snake and owl. Those are both.
Gina (15:19)
Yes.
⁓ okay.
Kathryn (15:47)
officially part of her legend. So good job!
Gina (15:49)
Okay, I
think of Lilith whenever I see an owl now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nice. All right, are you ready for your next question?
Kathryn (15:52)
⁓ I love that. Yeah.
I am.
Gina (15:59)
how did Giulia Tofana of episode 17 fame disguise her poison? Was it A, in jewelry, B, as cosmetics, C, in packets of spices, or D, all of the above?
Kathryn (16:15)
⁓ I would love if it was spices. I know it's not, but that's a good idea. Not me planning. Okay. Never thought of that one. Thanks, Gina. ⁓ I don't remember which letter it was, but cosmetics.
Gina (16:27)
Hehehehe
Ding ding ding, correct. Correct again. Two for two, very good.
Kathryn (16:35)
thank you. Okay. This one I think might be a hard one, but I also think that you'll get it. Okay, we'll see. episode 22, which was not about a woman, it was about the Beast of Bray Road, who was the woman who popularized the Beast's story? Was it A, Doris Gibson B, Linda Godfrey?
C. Pat Lester or D. Lori Lester. All of these women appeared in the episode.
Gina (17:10)
I was gonna say I recognize multiple of these names. Ooh, this is, I'm not gonna lie, this is gonna be a guess.
Kathryn (17:17)
Should we bring up lifelines? I'm gonna do 50-50. I can narrow it down to... Oh my God, are we creating rules as we go? Since you're keeping score anyway, do you only get to use one? Yeah, 50-50, phone a friend, help from the audience. Yeah, or you could text Tom or anyone.
Gina (17:22)
Ooh, okay, okay.
Hell yes, we absolutely should. Okay, so 50-50 is one.
Yeah. Can we be each other's friends? That we phone? Okay. ⁓
okay. Okay. I don't know why I'm writing these rules down.
Kathryn (17:43)
Okay, actually no, phone a friend.
Phone a friend can be either you text someone or just ask each other. Help from the audience is just ask each other, because are, Cinnamon's gone, so we are the only audience now.
Gina (17:56)
Okay, okay, okay.
I would like a 50-50 please.
Kathryn (18:03)
Okay. So.
B. Linda Godfrey or C. Pat Lester?
Gina (18:09)
Pat Lester. Damn it, no! Oh, I thought if I said it with enough confidence, you would think it was right.
Kathryn (18:11)
No, it's Linda Godry.
I would just be like, yeah, wow, good job. No, Pat Lester was the bus driver who had a daughter, Lori Lester, who also saw the beast. Linda Godfrey was a cartoonist turned journalist who first reported on the story. It was like a slow news day. Story on this beast came through the wire. She, like for fun, decides to pick it up.
Gina (18:20)
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay.
Kathryn (18:43)
gets out of hand all of a sudden, she is credited for basically creating the Beast of Bray Road legend, went on to write a bunch of like local haunted Wisconsin books. So yeah, yeah, Linda Godfrey.
Gina (18:53)
Hell yeah. All right.
Shout out, Linda. Sorry. I'll remember you next time.
Kathryn (18:59)
Yeah,
you can, if you, for those listening, you can learn all about her in episode 22 of Beast of Bray Road.
Gina (19:07)
Hell yeah. Okay, are you ready to get this one wrong so we can get on more even footing?
Kathryn (19:10)
Yes! Now I feel like I have to. Will
you not come to New Orleans with me if I don't get a rock? Sorry, that was mean. That was too far.
Gina (19:17)
Oh, don't be silly. I'll come to New Orleans just to remind you that you beat
me and I'll make you feel guilty about it. I'm kidding. I would never do that. All right. In episode 10, bit of a throwback, we talked about Elva Zona Hester Shue, whose murder case was solved after her ghost appeared in her mother's dreams. How many of these dreams did Zona's mother have?
Kathryn (19:22)
Hey man, we're only a few in, we're only a few in, there's still plenty of time.
Yeah.
no.
I am gonna get this wrong. That's a good question. Okay.
Gina (19:47)
Thank you. Okay, your options are three, five, four, or 10.
Kathryn (19:55)
want to use 50-50 but it's not going to help me. Because... I don't know. I'm going to say three.
Gina (20:05)
it was four.
Kathryn (20:07)
well.
Yeah, I was gonna say for what it's worth, I would have narrowed it down to those two. So if I had done 50-50, if you had done those, I still would have gotten it wrong.
Gina (20:15)
And I will say I did throw three in there to be a little tricky because I know that it's a kind of a magical number. Yeah, it was a distraction Yeah I had a hunch. I know and now I feel guilty I here I was talking mad shit about how I'm losing and I want you to lose too and now I'm all sad I know I do I feel a bit guilty. I'm sorry You can you should get the next one, right?
Kathryn (20:19)
You know that I would choose three, yeah. ⁓ tricky, tricky. Damn, okay.
I know, do you feel bad now Gina? Do you feel bad?
Well, the next several of mine are very easy, so. Oh wait, no, they're all very easy from here on out. Wait. Okay, I think that one's hard. Number seven's hard. Okay, back to number three. Are you getting warm? Are you getting cocktail warm? I know. Okay.
Gina (20:46)
Excellent.
Yeah, I am, yeah. Cocktail and laughing warm.
Kathryn (20:59)
How can you avoid Tutu Pele's curse? This is from episode 42. You're gonna know this one. Option A. I didn't know what options to put. Option A. Be nice to your sister.
Gina (21:19)
Did you ask my mom to write that?
Kathryn (21:20)
B No, but I thought she would like it so that's why I did it. Okay B This is so dumb. Do you want to just answer or do you want to hear the options? Okay, okay, so A be nice to your sister B go on a sea adventure C C Do not disrupt her land
Gina (21:23)
You
Give me the option.
Well, it's that one, obviously.
Kathryn (21:47)
or D, only eat locally sourced Hawaiian fruit.
Gina (21:56)
I'm gonna go with do not disturb her land.
Kathryn (21:59)
Yes.
⁓ More specifically, she hates when you take rock sand or anything else that was like a product of the volcano eruptions, which per her legend is the land in general. and actually just not even per her legend, but Hawaii was created by volcano. So yes, you are correct.
Gina (22:21)
Hell yeah, yeah, I need
to give myself a point. we're tied.
Kathryn (22:24)
I was gonna say, we should be tied, right? Yeah.
Gina (22:27)
We are tight, exciting, okay. During Witches Month in episode 51, we talked about La Voison, a famous poisoner and practitioner of black magic in the court of King Louis XIV. What was La Voison's real first name? Was it A, Giselle, B, Collette, C, Marie, or D, Catherine
Kathryn (22:55)
it was Catherine. Yes, yes, Catherine Okay, I was so scared. Yeah, it was Catherine Yes, that's a good one. I also have a name related one for number four. This one's also easy. No, this one's easy, you'll get it. You don't even need the options for this one, but I'll give them to you anyway. Okay, number four. Who did Otto
Gina (22:57)
It was Kathryn, yeah, 100 % right. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, you got it. Kathryn Deshae was her name.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
no.
Kathryn (23:24)
Koehler's mistresses share a name with. This is from episode 38. Do you want to hear the options?
Gina (23:33)
Yeah.
Kathryn (23:35)
A. His mom. B. His sister. C. His niece. Or D. His wife.
Gina (23:43)
His wife, Emma. Emma's all around.
Kathryn (23:45)
Emma, our girl You get an Emma, you get an Emma.
Gina (23:46)
Emma's as far as the eye can see.
Excellent, yes. Great episode. I loved Hotel Emma.
Kathryn (23:58)
Such a good episode.
Yeah, what did I do that for? What was that one for?
Gina (24:02)
Was that bars month? I think that might've been bars.
Kathryn (24:05)
Yes, it
was because yeah, was in charge of the brewery or whatever it's called, I don't know. Yeah.
Gina (24:11)
Yeah.
Talk about badass women. my god. Leader in the brewing industry during Prohibition. Jesus. It's such a vibe. It was, yeah.
Kathryn (24:15)
I know.
Mm-hmm. That's such a vibe. That was one of my favorite episodes to research. Yeah, because I came up with that idea.
Yeah, I came up with that idea ⁓ when I was at Hotel Emma in San Diego. Nope, I wasn't. I was in San Antonio.
Gina (24:28)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And
don't they have like one of the drinks at the bar is like the three Emma's or something like that?
Kathryn (24:37)
It's called the
three Emma's, believe. And what is their tagline? It's so cute. it's something like.
you can't have just one But three will kill you or like something like that. It's it's like a cutesy Spoiler alert for that episode. But yeah, it's like a play on the story. Yeah, that was a good episode. I like that one
Gina (24:51)
Yeah.
Great episode. I love that.
All right. yes, you got a point. Okay, excellent. No, I got a point. What am I up to now? Okay, so we're both at three points now, I think.
Kathryn (25:03)
Yeah, don't you forget my points.
Okay.
Gina (25:11)
I think yes. No, I'm ⁓ I'm pretty sure we're both at three. Okay. Also in Witches Month in episode 49, we talked about Helen Duncan, a psychic medium who may or may not have been a little bit of a charlatan. As part of her seances, she would spit out ectoplasm. What was the key ingredient in this ectoplasm?
Kathryn (25:13)
Listeners, keep her honest.
Gina (25:39)
Was it A, cloth, B, eggs, C, toilet paper, or D, all of the above?
Kathryn (25:49)
I think it was all of the above.
Gina (25:52)
Final answer?
Kathryn (25:53)
Can you give me the options one more time?
Gina (25:56)
Yes, so cloth, eggs, toilet paper, all of the above.
Kathryn (26:02)
When was toilet paper invented?
Gina (26:07)
That's a great question. I want to look that up.
Kathryn (26:10)
You don't have to tell me the answer, but unless you want to.
Gina (26:16)
I mean, this is...
Kathryn (26:17)
No, toilet
paper's been around longer than her. Well, what's the year? Yeah, okay.
Gina (26:21)
Yeah. ⁓
Google's AI overview says 1857.
Kathryn (26:26)
Okay, yeah. wow, that's both later and earlier than I would expect.
Gina (26:30)
That's the exact reaction I had, yeah.
Kathryn (26:33)
Yeah,
like I'm surprised, but I don't know why.
Gina (26:36)
Mm-hmm. I can narrow it down for you if you want to do a 50-50.
Kathryn (26:38)
Okay, yeah, let's
do a 50-50. I feel weird using it because I'm kind of confident, but not enough. Okay, just give me the 50-50. Okay.
Gina (26:46)
I got you. Okay,
your new options are cloth or all of the above.
Kathryn (26:51)
all of the above.
Gina (26:53)
Ding ding ding, correct! Nice. Very very good.
Kathryn (26:54)
Okay. I remember the eggs,
because I remember that made me, like, particularly gaggy. Yeah.
Gina (26:59)
Super gross, yeah.
Yeah, when I was writing this question, I was just gonna have eggs be the correct answer and put like random other crap in there. And then I was like, you know what? Nothing sounds more ridiculous than what actually went into it. So I'm just gonna leave.
Kathryn (27:07)
Mm.
That's so true. That's why, yeah,
that's why I was second guessing, because I was like, that's too much. Yeah.
Gina (27:19)
It sounds so wild, but it's
Kathryn (27:22)
In episode 20, we talked about my girl Lavinia Fisher. What key phrase was omitted from her famous last words? I feel like you know this one. ⁓ you look scared.
Gina (27:39)
See, but the thing is
I know the vibe of it. I don't know if I remember the exact, like I remember the message, not the exact phrase.
Kathryn (27:45)
Okay,
I feel like you'll know it when you hear it. But if not, that's okay. Okay. A, if you find me so evil. B, whether you like it or not. C, if you dare. Or D, nothing. Her words were not taken out of context.
Gina (27:48)
Okay.
Well, definitely the last one. No, it's gotta be If You Find Me So Evil. I think it's A. Hell yeah.
Kathryn (28:11)
It is a yep. So
yeah her her last words were if you find me so evil If any of you have a message to send to hell give it to me and I'll carry it But the newspapers that were reporting on the event Took out that first phrase. So so throughout her history Lila throughout history her last words have been If any of you have a message for hell send it or like give it to me. I'll carry
Gina (28:41)
Those are badass last words, either way.
Kathryn (28:44)
Even with the fray, I know, yeah me too because it's like, hey, you know what, fine, if you think I'm evil, great, whatever, you know, or just like great, whatever. Like either way, it's still a way to go.
Gina (28:46)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, don't love that she was misrepresented, but no matter what, like, what a badass.
Kathryn (29:03)
Yeah, I know I love it. You know what? So I was gonna make the question, ⁓ what color did she wear at her execution? But I know that you just, you would have gotten that so fast.
Gina (29:11)
Bye!
because I'm so obsessed with the fact that she wore her wedding dress. That just power move. God.
Kathryn (29:17)
Yeah, I know, I know.
And it's one of those things where like there is a version of this story where it is just simply the nicest thing she owned. But even then it's like the metaphor that is carried within that and the fact that she was gonna, you you don't have to wear the nicest thing you own to your execution. Like you could be like, fuck you. Like she could have showed up naked. That would have also been a statement, you know, but like she chose to wear.
Gina (29:31)
Mm-hmm.
That's true, yeah.
That would be awesome.
Kathryn (29:45)
Honestly, kind of like that vibe in the moment I said that I was like man if it were me I probably would have done that Like I don't I just I don't want my last moments on earth to be like in close. Yeah Yeah
Gina (29:52)
Just show up naked.
No, no, no,
naked with a feather boa. That's how I wanna go.
Kathryn (30:03)
That is how I picture you when I think of you. Yeah.
Gina (30:06)
Thank you.
I thought you were gonna say that's how I picture you going, but you just stopped it. That's how I picture you.
Kathryn (30:11)
Yeah.
No, just...
Yep, no, when I think of you, when I think of us hanging out, you are naked with a boa.
Gina (30:21)
⁓ I've been waiting for this conversation for a long time, Kathryn. I will say my tickets to New Orleans are not refundable, so you cannot get away from me.
Kathryn (30:23)
Yes. Yeah. Yep.
I'm burning a hole in your pocket.
Wow, we're gonna have a good time.
Gina (30:35)
Okay, are you
ready for your next question?
Kathryn (30:39)
Yes, I keep wanting to say as ready as I'll ever be. already did. I shouldn't have come in hot with that right off the bat. Okay, yes, I'm ready.
Gina (30:46)
In episode
34, we talked about the green children of Woolpit who are famous for being children who were green. In the story, the kids and particularly the surviving child, Agnes, loved one food than anything. What was that food? Was it A, fava beans, B, Brussels sprouts, C,
Kathryn (30:52)
Mmm.
⁓
Gina (31:15)
Kidney beans or D, green apples.
Kathryn (31:20)
Okay, I know it was a bean.
Okay, so I'm gonna guess fava beans. Okay, now that I am correct, I will tell you how I got there. For some reason, whenever I think of, this is gonna be a second, so bear with me, this is a stretch. Whenever I think of that episode, my mother's face flashes in my head. And the reason why is because she's really scared of Anthony Hopkins. And the reason why,
Gina (31:25)
Correct! Very nice. Excellent work.
Kathryn (31:49)
is because of the movie Silence of the Lambs and in that movie he eats fava beans. So that's the connection. It's a stretch.
Gina (31:56)
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's a really good connection. Nice.
Kathryn (32:05)
Wait, is it my turn? I don't know. it is my turn. Okay. What's happening? Who are you people? Okay. So you do not get multiple choice for this one. If you get it wrong, then we're going to be in trouble. Okay. Number six. Wow. This is another throwback. My last ones are my going real far back in time episodes. Okay. Who?
Gina (32:05)
Is it your turn or my turn? It's your turn. Yeah, it's your turn. It's like, what are we doing?
Kathryn (32:32)
Was I visiting when I went to El Campo's Santo Cemetery from episode 16? Yes, of course. Friend of the Pod, Chloe. Yeah. That was for Cemetery Month. Yes. Yeah. That, I loved that episode. That was, I know I keep saying that, but like, yeah, I enjoyed that one because that, when I went, that cemetery is the reason I wanted to do a Cemetery Month, because it was just so interesting.
Gina (32:37)
Hmm, Chloe.
Friend of the blog, Chloe. Hell yeah, shout out Chloe.
was such a good episode.
And that's one of the only episodes we've done that has like a haunted Wild West kind of vibe. Like we've
Kathryn (33:07)
Mm-hmm.
Gina (33:08)
were some good ghosts in that one too.
Kathryn (33:11)
Yeah, that was a fun one.
Okay, your turn. Are you just reminiscing?
Gina (33:14)
Okay. Yeah, I am. I'm just thinking about
all the amazing episodes we've done. Okay, so, cast your mind all the way back to episode 69. Nice. Before Ma- See, okay, here's what pisses me off. I got episode 69.
Kathryn (33:27)
Man, I was so jealous that you got episode 69 and you got two of them
Gina (33:36)
Episode 69.5, my episode was about the courtesan and I didn't make a single 69 joke in those episodes. It was a completely missed opportunity and I am sad about it. I didn't realize until after the episodes came out. I'm very sad.
Kathryn (33:41)
No you didn't.
As your best friend, I'm
gonna take responsibility for that because I did notice that and I didn't say anything. I thought you were just trying to be mature. I'm so sorry. I will never make that mistake again. I was like, okay, so we're not doing 69 jokes, okay. Yeah, I'm so sorry. That one is on me, yeah.
Gina (33:56)
That's okay. ⁓ Kathryn, Kathryn, honey.
No, we always do 69 jokes. I just forgot in this one instance.
Anyway, my question. Before Mata Hari decided to pursue fame as a dancer, she pursued another career. What was her original career plan? Was it A, hat making, B, dress making, C, teaching, or D, being a governess?
Kathryn (34:31)
See you teaching.
Gina (34:33)
100 % correct. Hell yeah, you're killing it. You got six points.
Kathryn (34:35)
Yay.
What? ⁓ I thought you meant for that question. I was like, points. Are they weighted?
Gina (34:42)
Just like whatever amount I
feel like giving. You get 27 for this one. You get a slice of apple pie for that one.
Kathryn (34:49)
Ooh, that'd
be fun.
where are we? Number seven? Okay. Another throwback, early days, episode 18, the Tylenol Murders, the first one that put me in an emotional spiral. What was the name of the nurse who figured out that the Tylenol was likely the culprit of the Tylenol Murders?
Gina (35:05)
You
Kathryn (35:15)
before we knew they were the Tylenol murders. One, Helen Jensen. Two, sorry. A, Helen Jensen. B, Paula Prince. C, Mary Reiner. Or D, Theresa Janis. These are all women that showed up in the episode. Mm-hmm.
Gina (35:26)
Hahaha!
Okay, is, I was about to ask you that question. Okay.
⁓
How does phone a friend and the audience thing work? Do I just ask you what the correct answer is and I get like a freebie?
Kathryn (35:53)
I don't
I don't know. We didn't really think that through, did we?
Gina (35:57)
No, okay, could you please read me? Go ahead. No, you go.
Kathryn (35:59)
What if it's like, oh go ahead, go ahead. I don't know, I'm
just like spitballing. I was gonna say what if I just like give a clue? I don't know, I don't know how this could work. I don't know what clue I would give.
Gina (36:11)
Okay.
That's the thing, like if I have to give a clue, I'm bad at coming up with clues on the spot that don't like give away the whole thing. Okay, could you read me Paula and Mary's full names again?
Kathryn (36:17)
Yeah, me too.
Paula Prince and Mary Reiner.
Gina (36:28)
I think it's Mary Reiner.
Kathryn (36:32)
So let me give you a little bit of a hint. It's not Mary Reiner
Gina (36:39)
Is it Paula Prince?
Okay, I'm not good with names. Is it Teresa?
Kathryn (36:45)
No!
No, sorry. Helen Jensen. so Paula Prince was the one who bought her Tylenol from the Walgreens that I used to go to before my classes at Second City in Old Town. Mary Reiner, ⁓ she is one of many Marys. That was gonna be the clue that.
Gina (36:55)
Who was the last person?
Helen Jensen. God, I'm so sorry, Helen.
Kathryn (37:17)
I gave that like there were like many of the victims names were Mary. I think there were like four of them. And then Teresa Janis was the sister-in-law of the, I think he was a mail carrier, Adam Janis. She and her husband, so Adam Janis' brother like came to the house after he died.
Gina (37:30)
Okay.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kathryn (37:41)
And they took some of his Tylenol
because they were all like had a headache from like weeping and you know, just the situation. she was, yeah, so she was his sister-in-law. And then Helen Jensen was the, she was the public health official for Arlington Heights at the time. And she was sent to investigate the situation. And she is the one who noticed the bottle of Tylenol that had been open and six were missing. So like.
Gina (37:47)
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it, okay.
Kathryn (38:09)
He, you know,
he took some and then the other two took some. yes.
Gina (38:14)
Shout out Helen, sorry, I'm bad with names. It's not a personal thing. Yeah, that's really hard.
Kathryn (38:16)
Yeah, it's not personal. The names ones are hard, especially since I,
I will, okay, I will say just a little clue might not help. My last question, it's another names one, but not all of the names are like people that showed up in the story.
Gina (38:36)
Yeah, okay. All right, in episode eight, we covered the story of Walburga Osterreich, or as she was better known, Dolly, AKA the woman who had a lover hidden in a secret area within her house.
Kathryn (38:51)
Yeah, I
was like, who the hell is that? Okay, yes.
Gina (38:55)
⁓
Where was her lover hidden? Was he in the A, basement, B, attic, C, shed, or D, in the walls themselves?
Kathryn (39:11)
⁓ is this a trick question?
Gina (39:13)
It might have been an inadvertent trick question. There is a correct answer. But I can see the confusion now that I'm thinking about it.
Kathryn (39:18)
Okay.
⁓ I think...
I think the correct answer is going to be the attic.
Gina (39:27)
Correct, yep, he was in the attic. Yeah. Was it between attic and in the walls?
Kathryn (39:29)
Okay, yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, he was in the attic. I feel like he just leads to the fear of people being in the walls. Because that's like a...
Gina (39:34)
I see that. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And there might
have been at some point something about, because he like moved around a lot too. Yeah, yeah.
Kathryn (39:44)
Maybe he was slipping around inside the wall. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of.
Cause like, I don't know a lot about home construction. iscreamyouscreampod@gmail.com. Is it easy to get from the attic to inside the walls? Maybe, I don't know. But I'm imagining just like, you just kind of slipped down in a hole and suddenly you're in the walls. That's how I understand it. But maybe that's not true. Who knows? Yeah.
Gina (39:53)
This
So I picture it too. That's what I think it is. That's
how they should build houses. ⁓ my God. That's so terrifying. All right. I'm ready.
Kathryn (40:09)
That's how the people who live in my walls got there.
hope that's not true. Please don't live in my walls. I'm so sorry. I was just kidding.
Okay, this one I think might be easy. number eight. From episode 64 during cryptid month, who was Madeline Tolentino visiting when she first spotted the Chupacabra? One, I mean A, her sister. B, her brother. C, her father or D, her mother.
Gina (40:49)
Pretty sure it was her sister.
Mother, father, mother.
Kathryn (40:54)
Correct! It was her mother!
You're right, it was her mother.
Gina (40:59)
Okay, okay,
cool. I got it correct on the first try.
Kathryn (41:05)
Yes, you did. Good thing you took a practice answer.
Gina (41:09)
Yeah, I was just loosening my lips a little bit. I do
pay attention when you deliver episodes, by the way. I 100 % do. It's just some of these details apparently don't stick around.
Kathryn (41:22)
you ⁓
Gina (41:25)
Okay, you ready?
Kathryn (41:26)
Yes.
Gina (41:28)
In episode 65, we dove into the story of the Casket Girls, who may or may not be vampires that continue to stalk the streets of New Orleans. But the term Casket Girls is a bit of a misnomer. What did the word casket in the phrase casket girls actually refer to? Was it A, the girls' suitcases, B, the girls' shoes, C, the ships the girls came over on,
Kathryn (41:31)
Ooh.
Gina (41:58)
or D, the girl's wardrobes.
Kathryn (42:02)
⁓
I was gonna say suitcase, but wardrobe?
I'm gonna say suitcase. Yay! Okay, oh, that was tricky, you little tricky. Okay, yeah, that was a tricky one.
Gina (42:11)
Correct, nice, yep, suitcase, yep, yep, yep, yep, you got it.
Okay, so if I get the next two correct, I will almost be caught up with you. So we have to make another quiz so that I can catch up with you.
Kathryn (42:23)
Hmm
Wait, what's the score right now?
Gina (42:36)
So I'm at five, you are at eight. You're at almost a perfect score. think you've only, yeah, you've only gotten one wrong. Very good.
Kathryn (42:42)
Which one
did I get wrong? don't remember. I don't expect you to remember either.
Gina (42:45)
⁓
it was, ⁓ how many dreams did Zona's mother have? Mm-hmm. Yep.
Kathryn (42:50)
yes, yes, yes, yes. yep.
Okay, so this one is from episode 70. So real recent. Yes. What was the name of the woman who testified against John Bobbitt and is often credited as one of the most important testimonies in Lorena Bobbitt's case? Do you want, yes, it was Regina.
Gina (42:59)
Okay, recent. All right, all right.
Next one, Regina!
Hooray!
Kathryn (43:20)
Unfortunately, I have two questions, two answers with the word Regina in it. So you, I only said her full name once in the episode. So you will count this as correct, but I'm curious if you'll get the full name. So I'll narrow it down. So the full answer list was Regina Keegan, Jenna Basuti, Laura Manassas, or Regina Gallo
So either Regina Keegan or Regina Gio.
Gina (43:51)
I think it was Regina Keegan.
Kathryn (43:53)
It was because Gallo is Lorena's unmarried name. So you did get it correct. You got it correct. Yes.
Gina (43:58)
Nice. OK, hooray. Yay,
Regina. Are you ready for a question about an episode that you wrote? Well, it is about an episode that we've already talked about tonight. You asked me a question about it earlier. All the way back in episode 20, when you told me the fascinating story, legend, and rumors about Lavinia Fisher, ⁓
Kathryn (44:05)
No, I'm so scared. No, I'm not ready. Tell me.
okay. Okay.
Gina (44:24)
What did she allegedly poison all those men with? Was it A. Nightshade? B. Foxglove? C. Lily of the Valley or D. White Oleander?
Kathryn (44:26)
Ahem.
Gina (44:40)
It's a tricky one.
Kathryn (44:44)
feel bad that I don't remember.
know it was white, so it was either Lily of the Valley. You know what, no, it was White Oleander. Yes, it was, yes.
Gina (44:54)
Correct, yes it was White Odeon-er, nice. Alright,
so you end with nine out of 10 points, that's very good. Excellent.
Kathryn (44:59)
Excuse me. Okay.
I forgot to do a multiple choice for you, so I'm trying to think of a way to, let me write down some extra answers real quick.
Gina (45:07)
⁓ okay.
Kathryn (45:10)
Okay, it's a number one, so I had to do it in a way that wasn't like...
Gina (45:15)
Is it math?
Kathryn (45:17)
No, it's just counting. Okay. So technically, if you ask me, yes. Okay. So I don't think we've talked about this one. Episode three, throwing it way back.
Gina (45:18)
Okay. ⁓ Okay.
You
my gosh, of course.
Kathryn (45:37)
Our girl Mercy Brown? How many siblings did Mercy Brown have?
Gina (45:41)
⁓ no. ⁓ crap.
she had quite a few.
Kathryn (45:47)
So not, yeah, so not how many kids total, but how many siblings did she have? So options are four, eight, six, or five.
Gina (45:59)
I know she had, I know she had the brother. I know she had the older sister who died when they were young.
Kathryn (45:59)
Sorry, that's a hard one.
Gina (46:08)
I'm gonna say four?
Kathryn (46:10)
I'm Googling it to make sure I'm right.
Okay, so this is a trick question and like, I didn't realize it was a trick question. You would still be wrong. But I'll phrase it this way. Per your episode and the research you did and shared and the names that you shared, she had six siblings.
Gina (46:17)
No!
good.
Kathryn (46:35)
Per Google AI overview, she had at least five. So either way, not four. Because there were the, like, it was, what, the three or four that are part of the story, but then she had others that aren't really talked about. And you did name them. You named the ones that we knew. I went back and I counted. Yeah.
Gina (46:40)
Okay.
Yeah.
You're right, yeah.
Yeah, because I remember talking about
that of like, I'm not ignoring the other kids. It's just like, they're not the main players in the story. Okay, okay. Well, we end the I Cream Meescream Quiz Show with Gina, contestant 1.1, contestant 1 the second.
Kathryn (47:00)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry. ⁓
What the?
Gina (47:14)
with six out of 10, and contestant one, Kathryn, with nine out of 10, which means that this was officially not a contest. This was a friendly game. What?
Kathryn (47:22)
my god! You know what it was though?
Together, we make 69.
Gina (47:28)
Xena!
Kathryn (47:31)
Cheers. I'ma choose to that. I know you've been done for a while, but...
Gina (47:33)
Cheers.
It's starting to melt and I'm getting second drink so it's perfect.
Kathryn (47:39)
Excellent.
Excellent. Well, I'd say that that was a success. Can't say that that was our first quid quiz but ⁓ based on the fact that I did not win this very friendly non-competition, I'd say it's my personal favorite.
Gina (47:42)
Yay!
Ha ha!
I do think you deserve the win. Round of applause to the ice cream you scream expert, Kathryn. I will spend every night between now and when I insist we do this again, studying every episode that we've done.
Kathryn (48:10)
Excellent. All right. Well, I think that's been enough. We're going to stop recording so we can continue chatting, but I think that's quite enough of that. I've moved on and so should you. Until next time, little spoons, keep it cool.
Gina (48:19)
Enough.
You
and keep it creepy.
